Curse

stanleyhkw · Mar 06, 2011, 05:14 AM // 05:14

Hard mode isn't hard any more with 7 heroes update.
It is as easy as monkey mode now.

Anet please bring us more challenge, we need mod with 50+ level
or just simply add environment effect to all area, such as

constantly health degen
every step u lost hp
every time u death u randomly get disable 1 skill in your skill bar permanent in that zone. etc

and introduce more title for vang, guardian title etc.

Verene · Mar 06, 2011, 05:17 AM // 05:17

...you know you don't have to go out with seven heroes, right?

If you think it's too easy with that, then don't use it.

Gabriel of Ravn · Mar 06, 2011, 05:19 AM // 05:19

Or just go with nothing but hench if you want a semi challenge of course excluding the areas you can't use them.

Kunder · Mar 06, 2011, 05:20 AM // 05:20

We clearly need enemies with +100% attack speed, +500% movement speed, and with an aggro radius of the entire map as well.

DRGN · Mar 06, 2011, 05:36 AM // 05:36

The real problems with HM is that it doesn't really fix monster's shit skill bars or their pretty lackluster AI. It just tries to compensate for it with bigger numbers. This would do the same thing.

also 50% chance this is a troll thread

NeHoMaR · Mar 06, 2011, 05:43 AM // 05:43

I suggested Nightmare Mode 4 years ago:

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10224643

I even did a new icon for the mode

FengShuiDove · Mar 06, 2011, 05:45 AM // 05:45

No, we need to go back to being bad at the game.

The game has gotten easier, but if we just threw 7 heroes at the playerbase 3 years ago, it wouldn't be as easy as it is now. Turns out, the community has gotten better and mostly the people around here are skilled enough to curbstomp the whole game.

Old game is old, experienced players are experienced.

**cosyfiep** · Mar 06, 2011, 06:13 AM // 06:13

take all the skills out of your bar, remove all heroes and henchmen from your P...now go and play hm.

seriously if its too easy with 8 people/heroes then dont use 8....my husband likes to play solo, areas that should have 8--and then he has no healing either. so try that.

TheGizzy · Mar 06, 2011, 06:22 AM // 06:22

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Originally Posted by cosyfiep

seriously if its too easy with 8 people/heroes then dont use 8....my husband likes to play solo, areas that should have 8--and then he has no healing either. so try that.

Your hubby and mine are cut from the same cloth, apparently. He runs some sort of incendiary triple shot build he designed and just charges solo into areas I'd be biting my cuticles over even with a full party of 8 skilled human players.

I think he thinks he's some sort of

with a bow. LOL

Eternal Equinox · Mar 06, 2011, 07:02 AM // 07:02

Ultimate hard mode? solo the game.

Lasai · Mar 06, 2011, 07:04 AM // 07:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by stanleyhkw

Hard mode isn't hard any more with 7 heroes update.
It is as easy as monkey mode now.

Anet please bring us more challenge, we need mod with 50+ level
or just simply add environment effect to all area, such as

constantly health degen
every step u lost hp
every time u death u randomly get disable 1 skill in your skill bar permanent in that zone. etc

and introduce more title for vang, guardian title etc.

Remove all your armor. Equip some vampiric weapon. Take two skills, no elite/pve. Take one monk whose sole skill is heal area. Set to HM. Everytime you die, drop 10k in the zone. Between hidious defeats, pop into SJM to inform everyone how hard core you are. Take a crayon and write whatever titles you want directly on to your monitor.

Seriously, set the bar for yourself. If you think 7 heroes is "monkey mode" why are you using them?

Shayne Hawke · Mar 06, 2011, 07:24 AM // 07:24

Hard Mode already has introduced a plethora of balance issues with regards to how well suited some classes are for it versus others. We don't need more gimmicky raising-the-bar-on-difficulty modes. It doesn't even sound like it would be remotely like anything that could interest players.

UnChosen · Mar 06, 2011, 07:24 AM // 07:24

I'm willing to bet that if the word "heroes" is replaced with "shadow form" or "Pve Skills" or "Save yourselves!" we would get a different reaction...just saying. There is a massive double standard between heroes "overpowered" and pugs "overpowered".

I rather Anet focus of stuff like Elementalist HM damage, Rangers, Paragon, and grouping incentives.

SongOf · Mar 06, 2011, 07:32 AM // 07:32

game too easy with 8 heroes?

play with 4 heroes => increase your drop rate + harder = problem solved + benefits

Lasai · Mar 06, 2011, 07:45 AM // 07:45

I find it ironic that along with the comments that the game is too easy that there seems to also be a large group of people that want several classes buffed up.

I don't have an opinion on buffing up classes. My main is a ranger, always a bow ranger/me, and has achieved the most. I finished Proph, all of it, with hench only. Possibly that is why I have always felt challenged with the game..I play ranger more than any other class..3 of them.

/shrug. Just an observation. perhaps the game isn't as universally facerolling easy as some would like to claim it is.

Rites · Mar 06, 2011, 07:48 AM // 07:48

as with everyone else here i agree that you need to set your own standards as far as whats hard or not.
there is a challenge out there for peeps to just use core skills
or as everyone else stated drop your heroes

i have an idea.... use a completely unique build setup that wasn't copy/pasted from pvxwiki (no sabway/racway/discord etc...) and see how you fare then

i read somewhere on guru that someone challenged peeps to play solo (no hench/heroes) with no armor and only with sword/shield

seriously the henchmen and heroes were just to replace humans if you couldn't get into parties. theres no rule saying you must use them

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lasai

/shrug. Just an observation. perhaps the game isn't as universally facerolling easy as some would like to claim it is.

in all honesty the game actually is so easy with spiritway/sabway/discordway and a few other meta setups. but the ones crying that the game is so easy are usually the ones that dont like playing rangers, paras, eles or any of the more "needing" classes. if it aint meta, they wont play it, which is actually a sad loss for them cuz i enjoy my ranger over all else

Saru The Boss · Mar 06, 2011, 07:58 AM // 07:58

And give us Speed Clearers even moooooooore drops from Monsters/Chests.

/signed <3

HellScreamS · Mar 06, 2011, 08:27 AM // 08:27

Seriously this logic is flawed beyond belief. PvE was easy before, and now it's become shit and not challenging at all. Moreover, I see people suggesting going with no heroes or anything. So yea, although you can do this, I find it retarded that by doing this and playing the game in a way it should be played you get the same amount of benefits as some scrub going afk and leaving his heroes to do the job. Casual PvE was easy enough as it was before, without all those retarded heroes, and for the elite areas, well, they are elite areas so they're designed to be more challenging and group people up to do them together.

But really, in a game that already had few player interactions and pug groups for missions and dungeons and everything, this update RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOed the game over even more. I sometimes can't help but think Anet is trying to fail on purpose.

turbo234 · Mar 06, 2011, 08:32 AM // 08:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by FengShuiDove

No, we need to go back to being bad at the game.

The game has gotten easier, but if we just threw 7 heroes at the playerbase 3 years ago, it wouldn't be as easy as it is now. Turns out, the community has gotten better and mostly the people around here are skilled enough to curbstomp the whole game.

Old game is old, experienced players are experienced.

I actually completely agree with this. It's easy to realize it too. Ran through the first mission in factions a couple days ago like whatever its a beginner mission, but when it first came out I remember having to get teams bc I couldn't do it alone

Kaida the Heartless · Mar 06, 2011, 09:19 AM // 09:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kunder

We clearly need enemies with +100% attack speed, +500% movement speed, and with an aggro radius of the entire map as well.

Tank entire map with Shadow Form. --> Spike with Manlyway and crash the server.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lasai

...Take a crayon and write whatever titles you want directly on to your monitor.

I laughed pretty hard at that. +1 for you.

GW2 is around the corner, we don't need any more modes. If you are really impatient, Dragon Age 2 comes out in a few days; grab that.